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Old 01-04-2010   #1
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Computer help anyone?

My roomate has an older gateway computer that he wants to fix up a little so he can run WoW on it. Anyone have any suggestions as far as graphics cards and memory that could help?
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Old 01-04-2010   #2
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How old is it? 1st step is to check if the video slot on its motherboard is a PCIEX/PCIEX 2.0.
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Old 01-04-2010   #3
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or if your motherboard is using AGP still lol
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Old 01-04-2010   #4
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My brother gave me a PC that was still AGP. It was a Starcraft lanparty PC for a while until someone came wanting to buy it not long ago.
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Old 01-04-2010   #5
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If my netbook runs WoW.. You can make almost anything run it :P

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Old 01-05-2010   #6
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Sassy why does my laptop suddenly shutdown sometimes when running WoW, literally power off complete, and will only turn back on if I remove the battery, and put it back in, and press on. It's absolutely maddening as I know it isn't the temperature of the laptop, since it's played in a room that is kept at approximately 50 degrees F. It also seems to happen when I'm in WoW, then alt-tab and open a new Firefox window. I was thinking there was something wrong with the wi-fi/ethernet cards seeing as the Wi-Fi periodically just drops out on it, and sometimes the LAN connection is slow for no reason. Goddamn Lenovo T61P, and the P is for piece of shit
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Post counts are for nubs, Cal your computer just sucks, and Bohemus, as the first couple people said, your best upgrades depend on what that beast currently has in it.
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Old 01-05-2010   #9
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Post count aren't for nubs. It's a precise indicator of how cool you are.
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Old 01-06-2010   #10
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Old 01-06-2010   #11
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Old 01-06-2010   #12
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Sassy why does my laptop suddenly shutdown sometimes when running WoW, literally power off complete, and will only turn back on if I remove the battery, and put it back in, and press on. It's absolutely maddening as I know it isn't the temperature of the laptop, since it's played in a room that is kept at approximately 50 degrees F. It also seems to happen when I'm in WoW, then alt-tab and open a new Firefox window. I was thinking there was something wrong with the wi-fi/ethernet cards seeing as the Wi-Fi periodically just drops out on it, and sometimes the LAN connection is slow for no reason. Goddamn Lenovo T61P, and the P is for piece of shit
Could be a combination of things. More likely that you are switching windows or doing something graphically intensive that causes graphic driver to crash. When a graphic driver crashes your computer will immediately shutdown with no error log left or bluescreen for diagnostics.

On a sidenote your LAN or WAN can fail without causing immediate shutdown. Computer power off only happens when a CRITICAL component fails.


My suggestion is as follows:

1) If you are not using a 64 bit operating system, upgrade to windows 7 64 bit. IF POSSIBLE

2) If that is not possible get the most up to date drivers for ALL components in your system.

3) Blow out your laptop, and apply new thermal paste to the GPU and CPU.

4) All else fails... Get really drunk and destroy your laptop in an imaginative fashion and record it for us.
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I like #3... the first four words of it.
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Old 01-07-2010   #15
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Could be a combination of things. More likely that you are switching windows or doing something graphically intensive that causes graphic driver to crash. When a graphic driver crashes your computer will immediately shutdown with no error log left or bluescreen for diagnostics.

On a sidenote your LAN or WAN can fail without causing immediate shutdown. Computer power off only happens when a CRITICAL component fails.


My suggestion is as follows:

1) If you are not using a 64 bit operating system, upgrade to windows 7 64 bit. IF POSSIBLE

2) If that is not possible get the most up to date drivers for ALL components in your system.

3) Blow out your laptop, and apply new thermal paste to the GPU and CPU.

4) All else fails... Get really drunk and destroy your laptop in an imaginative fashion and record it for us.
I punched a 9 inch hole in the wall 2 years ago over the computer....I wasn't drunk though, and my computer was working fine....I just lost the roll on Executioner in Zul'Aman. And no I'm not kidding. I also snapped my headset in half and shattered the remains against the opposite wall. People can attest to the event in question.

The graphically intensive thing is possible, since it happens most often when playing WoW, but that is it. It also happens when leaving WoW and opening a Firefox windo. The thing that is weird to me, is that when it does shutdown, I cannot just hit the power button to turn it back on, I have to remov ethe battery and the AC adapter plug and then reinsert them to turn it back on.
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Old 01-07-2010   #16
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I punched a 9 inch hole in the wall 2 years ago over the computer....
Try to do that around here lol
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Old 01-07-2010   #17
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Old 01-08-2010   #18
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Damnit. Last night the computer shut off when I logged off my account and was just sitting at the main log in screen for WoW to switch over to Amanda's account. Fucking ridiculous. I sent this laptop in like 5 times when it was under warranty. Now it's not, but I'm going to scream and yell and get them to fix it or at least tell me what the problem is.
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If you destroy anything that could be in an office, its only fitting to destroy it office space style.

PC LOAD LETTER? WTF DOES THAT MEAN?
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ha benny! these old school wow memories will never be forgotten!!!... cal don't worry @ lvl 60 i broked the arm off my pc chair because I lost a duel to charlie!!!! I still blame my shitty pc.
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Old 01-11-2010   #21
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New development (now that I've thoroughly derailed Joel's request for help)....yesterday, my girlfriend was using my laptop on the Wi-Fi with no problems, then she goes over to the computer room, plugs in the ethernet cord attached to the router, and disables the Wi-Fi connection from the task bar. Computer immediately shuts down. It seems fluky to me, however, there is a strong correlation between heavy network card load, and the shutdowns.
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I was at a friend's workplace last week and we did get a PC LOAD LETTER message on the printer. And we had no idea what to do lol
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I have had my suspicions about my router in the past being faulty, but i cannot foresee a situation in which the router itself would have an electrical surge over the communication lines to shutdown the laptop. I don't know what it could be, because I know it is not overheating.
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I have had my suspicions about my router in the past being faulty, but i cannot foresee a situation in which the router itself would have an electrical surge over the communication lines to shutdown the laptop. I don't know what it could be, because I know it is not overheating.
I did not mention. But even with your network card not being a required crucial component, you also could have a short. UNLIKELY

Please run a diagnostic on your computer. I am thinking you could have a faulty ram module. But nothing works better at diagnosing than PC-CHECK..

Since this is a private forum. I might reccomend this "Public download" please regonize that Pc-check is a licence based program..

http://thepiratebay.org/torrent/3446...heck.6.00-XiSO
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Old 01-13-2010   #25
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it is a known issue with T61P laptops that there are faulty ram modules...i just did not think that this was the problem...
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So I ran memtest86+ over night the other day, and there were no failures, and all tests repeatedly passed.

I have been able to recreate the shutdown. It most often occurs when on the WoW login screen, or when trying to alt tab and open a new firefox window. I could see possibly that opening a new firefox window while having the game open could potentially add a great deal of load, but I'm also wondering if it could possibly be the graphics drives for my specific laptop. THere have been people with issues with the laptop and gaming.

I would like to run PC-Check, however, when I downloaded the torrent, it just gave me a bunch of .rar files all of the same size, and all seemingly with the same components within. After I download the torrent what should I do next?
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If you already have winrar, just extract to a destination. Those little peices will build one big piece. You may need to do another extraction right after as well.

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